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[Click to a video of Prefect. He's sitting on a chair, holding a small stack of books, on the top of it, there's a dog eared copy of The Three Musketeers.]

This was the first book I read here on the barge, Comrades. Sam gave it to me... years ago now. [He pauses, leafing through the pages idly.] I haven't read many others. We didn't really have books like this where I'm from. I mean, Sometimes you saw people on tv reading them, and sometimes you could buy like... the book part of it, so that you could look like the people on tv, but the contents were always just advertisements.

[He turns The three Musketeers over in his hands, studying the synopsis.]

I don't really go to the library here much. I used to go there and get drunk in the historical agriculture section, when I needed a change of scenery, but I don't really get any books out. I mean, I liked this one? And I like parts of the Marquis's books although I do inevitably end up skipping most of them, but books... don't really have any kind of special significance to me. Burning them is just like... burning a cardigan that you were never really planning on wearing anyway.

[He tosses the book down onto the concrete floor of his cabin. The second book in the stack is a copy of Farenheit 451]

I understand that this isn't the case for most people here. I know that for Beatty, burning books is his job. He did it every single day, to wipe out something that he saw as harmful, it was his duty to protect the people of his society. I know that for most of you, burning books - and what Beatty did in his real life - is an act of oppression, and a threat against the authors of those books. It represents the destruction of free thought, and of totalitarian governments. So I can understand why seeing someone doing it makes you angry.

[He tosses down the copy of Farenheit 451, and it lands on the floor beside The Three Musketeers with an ominous little thunk. The final book in the pile is one that people could only recognize if they've been in Prefect's room. It's a thick, heat bound pile of papers, and looks more like an instruction manual than anything else.]

Beatty can't do any of those things here though. And he knows that he can't. He can't stop the books from being replaced, he can't stop you from buying more books in ports, he can't stop you from writing, or thinking, or reading. He hasn't done anything to oppress any of you. On the Barge, while living without freedom? Burning books isn't an act of oppression. It's an act of political protest. I don't care if you hate it, or if you hate what it's trying to say, or if you think that he should have been stopped, or that he should be punished for this...

[Prefect throws the last book down. The cover reads Acceptable Procedural Standards and Functions. Then beneath that, written in bold; Class: A+ Designation: Prefect. What remains in his hand, formerly hidden beneath the pile of books, is a lighter.]

...Non-violent protest is a right.

[It seems for a moment, like there's more he wants to say, but he stops himself. Instead, he grabs a bottle of gin, and douses the books with it, before reaching down with the lighter, and clicking it on, so that all three books are consumed into tongues of flame.]



FUN OOC NOTES: Prefect has shoved all his cardboard boxes to the far end of the room, and his cabin is made of concrete, so the fire shouldn't spread, annnnnd yes, all of these books are his <3

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Date: 2011-10-27 03:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gotgreenmagic.livejournal.com
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Did something happen? I was in Zero.

[ooc: aaaand it's possible she still is, so let's play fast and loose with our tenses here. lol I need to talk to Mel.]

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Date: 2011-10-27 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
Not since Beatty burned a pile of books. But they were books about people on the Barge, mostly, so I think he was just tired of people snooping around on him.

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Date: 2011-10-27 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scarlet-discord.livejournal.com
When in the Hell are you Greyfaces going to stop pissing people off just to make a point that nobody cares about? Only an idiot would call his attempt to incite us "an act of non violent protest" or whatever. He burns books whenever he gets the chance because he wants control. Not because burning books is in any way a valid expression. Censorship and trying to control what we read is an attempt to get power over us. It doesn't matter if it's doomed not to work; Beatty is crazy and will try it anyway. You're missing the truth entirely.

In summation: go shove those burning books up your ass. In supporting him you're as bad as he is.

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Date: 2011-10-27 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] equalsfive.livejournal.com
And you're as fucking bad as the rest of them, just calling him 'crazy' and dismissing it like he's not a human being and didn't rationally do it for rational reasons, just because it's a social construct you can't fucking get your head around.

Fuck you.

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Date: 2011-10-27 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
He didn't hurt anyone. He didn't set fire to the entire library. As far as I know he didn't follow anyone around in port trying to keep them out of bookshops. This isn't an act of control, and he didn't identify it an act of control.

You're just projecting your cultural history of book burning, and your ignorant, misinformed ideas about Beatty and about me onto this action.

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Date: 2011-10-27 05:10 pm (UTC)
una_persson: (:|)
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[Una was going to respond to this, but then she decided to leave O'Brien and Prefect to it and simply went to make an addition to her latest post]

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Date: 2011-10-27 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] equalsfive.livejournal.com
Thank you, comrade.

I never expected it, but thank you.

[paaaaaaaause]

You might want to ask Beatty to stop that spreading.

[pause number two]

They're never going to get it, you know.

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Date: 2011-10-27 04:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
It's all right. Reading what people were saying to him...

...Sometimes I think we are the lesser evil.

[Little sigh.]

It's okay, Comrade, there's only three books there, and I have a tub of water in case I need to douse it.

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Date: 2011-10-27 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 19centconstable.livejournal.com
I do agree about non-violent protest, actually. The trouble is in it remaining non-violent, which is actually quite difficult.

I haven't read many books either, but I do think about writing one sometimes, and I'll tell you the same thing I told Mr. Beatty, which is that I think it's sad to burn a book, because it is something someone has worked very hard on. I would also feel badly for burning a sweater, because some nice lady somewhere likely knitted it, and I feel she'd be sad to know that her craft was so poorly thought of.

Date: 2011-10-27 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
In my world sweaters are made by enormous machines with many arms.

I worked in the knitting production department for a short period. It was harrowing.

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How would you feel about burning a book that was... bad, Comrade. Like a book telling people they should kill each other?

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Date: 2011-10-27 04:48 pm (UTC)
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I don't care either way about why you're burning books, but making a fire like that in an enclosed is a stupid idea. It's your property, so you can do what you want with it, but at least let me come down to make sure you don't set yourself on fire or die of smoke inhalation.

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Date: 2011-10-27 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
It's okay, Comrade! I'm going to put it out now! I should just put a blanket on it, right?

[PREFECT IS HOLDING THE FLUFFIEST LOOKING DUVET IN THE WORLD NOW. PLEASE COME AND STOP HIM FROM PUTTING IT ON HIS FIRE, ZUKO.]

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Date: 2011-10-27 06:15 pm (UTC)
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Of course it's a right; as long as you're not destroying other people's property or harming anyone in the process. I was under the impression that your friend was burning books that didn't belong to him, which isn't cool.

I mean, it's also my right to not like it; to call anyone who does it an asshole and a fascist. So I guess I'm not sure what your point is.

Date: 2011-10-27 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
I'm sorry, I'm assuming that if he'd just announced his terrible plan to steal and read the books the people wouldn't have cared so much.

And it is your right to not like it, and your right to call him whatever you want. My point is that this wasn't an act of fascism, even if you call it that. So even if you still dislike it, and even if you still call him names because of it, then you might as well let it be for the right reasons.

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Date: 2011-10-27 06:50 pm (UTC)
requiresssacrifice: (Rex - side)
From: [personal profile] requiresssacrifice
[Muttering:] I really wish people would stop setting things on fire to make a point. [FIRE BAD.]

You should put that out before you asphyxiate. I agree with your point, but you should probably go about it in a way that doesn't involve fire. They're the worst thing that can happen on a boat.
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Date: 2011-10-27 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
Thank you, Comrade. Zuko came and put it out for me.

Did you know he has magic fire powers, Comrade? They are quite impressive.

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Date: 2011-10-27 08:09 pm (UTC)
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I believe the problem is not the books as bits of paper, but what the books represent to most of the people here, coming from a low-technology society as they do. To them, books represent knowledge and culture, so the act of burning them is symbolic of the repression and destruction of knowledge and culture--much like burning an effigy of a person is symbolic of the killing and death of that person.

To that extent, Beatty's actions may indeed have been non-violent, but they were oppressive, the same way that voicing dire threats against a person's life is oppressive.

It would be absurd to treat Beatty as if he had burned an actual, living person, but to call it merely an act of non-violent protest ignores some significant details. His act was destructive. It made others feel that their knowledge and culture was under direct attack and being threatened with annihilation. Regardless of Beatty's intent that was the actual result. The fact that Beatty could not have succeeded in carrying out the implicit threat, and that both he and the members of the Barge rationally know it, also is irrelevant, since threats and the incitement of fear by their nature bypass rationality and are often intended to do so.

Date: 2011-10-27 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
I do understand what people automatically connected the book burning too, but that isn't less valid than what Beatty connects it too, just because they're in the majority. What's the point of being able to rationally know that Beatty couldn't actually act out their fears about the oppression of culture, if they can't use that reason to temper their behavior?

I know that seeing him do that made people uncomfortable, I know that it made them angry, but it did not remove anyone's capacity to step back from the communicator and actually think before responding. It didn't force anyone to call him insane, or to accuse him of being a murderer, or of anything other than burning books.

People just did those things anyway.

...Comrade, I do understand what it is you're saying, but being afraid of something doesn't entitle people to do whatever they want.

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Date: 2011-10-27 09:32 pm (UTC)
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Sometimes I forget how much you understand.

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Date: 2011-10-27 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
Sometimes I forget how easy it is for them to be like this.

I hate it. I'll never really be human to them.

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Date: 2011-10-27 11:32 pm (UTC)
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I hope you realize what you're doing.

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Date: 2011-10-27 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
I'm not sure if I do, Comrade. I'm never certain that I'm doing the right thing anymore.

But... I don't think it's right for people to treat him like this. They were cruel.

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Date: 2011-10-28 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puzzleprince.livejournal.com
On the other hand, there are those who have been oppressed in this very manner, who are caused mental anguish by the reenactment. I would try to keep them in mind, though that's only for the benefit of their feelings and mental well-being.

[Hannibal being the only one Eddie is aware of, though, and most other people are making him go 'who dropped a piano on puppies while I wasn't looking??']

Thank you, Prefect. I appreciate your input.

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Date: 2011-10-28 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
I understand that, Comrade. If the Marquis gave any indication that this bothered him at all, then I'd apologise to him for it. Most of these people though? Are just acting like he's some kind of monster for coming from a different society to them.

[Because the Marquis is his homeboy, and therefore, the only person on the ship entitled to be offended by this :c]

That's all right, Comrade.

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Date: 2011-10-28 10:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharpememory.livejournal.com
Does this mean that you and Beatty are done being friends?

And that book is awesome, by the way. [Not that Barron remembers it. :c]

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Date: 2011-10-28 11:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
What? No, Comrade, this means the opposite of that.

[He's gonna go get super drunk with Beatty and O'Brien, and grouse about you individualist jerkbags.]

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