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Mar. 13th, 2011 10:51 pm
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Maybe it's possible for us to come up with a social contract under which we collectively pretend that floods like the last one just didn't happen? It feels like a lot of us enjoy each others suffering in a way that is inevitably going to come back around and make our lives uncomfortable at a later date.

[Filtered to wardens who Prefect is especially fond of. Rayne, Una, Kirk, Sexby, Four, The Marquis and Seven.]

Comrades, has anyone else noticed that Howie seems... particularly unlike himself, lately?

[Private to Howie]

Excuse me Comrade, I was wondering if I could ask you some questions about God?

Re: private

Date: 2011-03-14 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com
Not necessarily. You can be a virtuous non-believer. If you act according to God's word, and according to the teachings of Christ, you are not necessarily corrupted, even if you do not worship Him actively. Acting according to His will and wishes is a form of worshipping Him in itself - in my church we call it 'living your life in Christ', others call it bearing witness.

So as long as you act morally, then you need not be corrupted.

private

Date: 2011-03-14 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
That sounds better, Comrade.

So where does the Barge fit in?

Re: private

Date: 2011-03-14 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com
I'll be honest, Prefect, I'm not as sure as I used to be.

But here's how I see it - I can't explain why this place exists. Or how it fits into the religious canon of what happens in your afterlife. No more than some of the scientists on board can explain it by scientific means.

But redemption, atonement and repenting are fundamental principles of our relationship with God. We all have the choice, every single day, every single moment of our lives, between doing the good thing, and doing the wrong thing. Circumstances can drive us one way or another, but we all have free will, none of us are created evil or good, we are created to make ourselves one or the other. The Barge, I think, gives people who may not have had the opportunity, or ability, to make the choice for good in their lives; and we aim to give them the ability and desire to choose good, and to atone and repent for what they have done. Not just repent in thought, but repent in action, to act differently.

It perhaps gives them one more chance to repent in their lives, one more chance to find their own capacity for good as well as evil, as perhaps all their life ever did was try to crush that capacity under the heavy weights of either expectation, circumstance, or the inability to see what was wrong in their actions.

It, fundamentally, is about redemption. Which is a fundamentally sound religious concept, to me, and something everyone should have a chance at, and something everyone can achieve.

private

Date: 2011-03-14 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
Why aren't you as sure as you used to be?

Re: private

Date: 2011-03-14 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com
It's complicated, but I'm still having trouble with the way John killed me and why, and it's making me question a lot of things I never have. That's all.

[and he sounds remarkably nonchalant about that.]

private

Date: 2011-03-14 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
Because he said that he did it because of your Pride?

Re: private

Date: 2011-03-14 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com
There was a lot, lot more to it than that. [oh, he just remembered this should bother him.]

I can't quite explain, and don't really... want to go into it.

private

Date: 2011-03-14 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
Comrade... would you mind going to the pub with me.

To play darts?

Re: private

Date: 2011-03-14 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com
...why, Prefect?

Alright, but why?

Re: private

Date: 2011-03-14 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
It feels like there's been a lot of pressure on you lately, Comrade. I think it could be good for us to spend some time relaxing.

Re: private

Date: 2011-03-14 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com
You're right there, Prefect. But I am trying to, I swear.

private

Date: 2011-03-14 03:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
Then we should go to the pub and play darts!

[HE WENT TO 1973, HE KNOWS THIS IS HOW POLICEMEN DEAL WITH THEIR PROBLEMS.]

Re: private

Date: 2011-03-14 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com
Alright, Prefect. I just don't want you going out of your way for me.

private - Prefect: SECRET DARTS SHARK

Date: 2011-03-14 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
That's all right, Comrade. I like darts.

Re: private -

Date: 2011-03-14 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com
Well, alright then. I'll see you... shortly?

Re: private -

Date: 2011-03-14 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com
All right, Comrade! I'll meet you in the pub?

Re: private -

Date: 2011-03-14 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kingfor-aday.livejournal.com
Absolutely. I'll get you a drink in.

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