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Prefect ([personal profile] buywithme) wrote2009-11-16 09:23 pm

86 - THE GRAND RETURN!

Is this--

...

Comrades? Are we--

[There's a long pause.]


I have-- cons--


Comrades!

Consumers!

Allow me to extend my fondest and most sincere greetings to you from the end of history! I’m quite sure you know my name: Prefect. Are we not the most highly favored of all our kinds to be here? In this, our new chance? Our new and open doorway? The compilation of not only millennia of history and experience, but worlds upon worlds of variety and flavor, all compressed into one microcosmic existence? Lain out for us on a platter? Let us not mourn our misfortune or dream of escape, but rather, let us combine and create and expand in our scope and diversity! Once more unto the breach my friends once more! Let us immanentize the eschation!

Brothers, sisters, comrades, buy with me.



[Ooc: Okay, so Prefect is back, and where he was that week lasted a lot longer than it did here. As such, he's worried that the people he knew will have all either graduated or just vanished off. Instead of being sensible and asking, he's re-written his original greeting post in case he's just surrounded by strangers.]

Your similarities to him are now sort of freaking him out!

[identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Comrade, we do not tear minds to peices! We don't tear anything to pieces! We guide people though-- through the natural path of human development towards perfection! We lead them to the glorious conclusion of history and-- and if there is a certain level of control which must be exercised over them to help them to choose the right things to want or the right ideals to obey or how to conduct themselves, then yes, we might steer them gently through that as well, but our devotion is not just created through a collection of techniques to assure our obedience!

It's the natural human response to being given everything you want and through being shown how good to you the Factory is and how much the Factory values you and knowing that it needs you and that you are a part of it's great machine!

Besides, I don't see how if you never give them any stuff, you can honestly prevent people from noticing that your party is 'ungood'.

ohdear. o'brien might actually do a good thing and decide not to push breaking his orthodoxy.

[identity profile] equalsfive.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
It is the natural human response, when given everything, to want more. To take it, and you, for granted.

Old despotisms were founded on such a thing. The, ah, social contract, I believe it was called. We give you everything you need, you shut up and do what we tell you. A fair enough idea, but a weak one, in the end. It is not sustainable, because people realise that you are merely pretending to be good, it's all a cover for maintaining your power. For that's all the aim of any system is. We do not cover it up. We take more and more power quite blatantly and we do not give people the opportunity to realise it is 'ungood'. The more power we have, the more attractive we are, and the more feared we are. The closer we get to omnipotence, the less chance there is ever of there even being such an unorthodox thought.

But, comrade, I can see you are a goodthinker for your 'factory'. I'm very sure my Party loves me too, and has concern for me as part of the collective. I simply also understand the how as well as the rhetorical.

Good things suck, he should push the crap out of it

[identity profile] buywithme.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
The Factory is not pretending to be good!

Thank you, Comrade. I... I'm sure that the party would have been an admirable alternative if the Factory didn't exist.

excuses! they are excuses to come bother you, prefect! he's having totalitarian existential angst.

[identity profile] equalsfive.livejournal.com 2009-11-17 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I am sure that your factory would have been suitible if the unthinkable were to happen. At least, in comparison to everyone else's words.

Comrade. Would you be interested at all in borrowing my book on Newspeak? If only out of academic curiosity.